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The irrational have broken their brains

Quora question: Why is irrationality consistent with itself while logic is not? In his bio, the questioner calls himself an “irrational logician”.

My answer:

Well, how exactly is irrationality consistent with itself?

And, how is logic not?

Specifics would have gone a long way towards understanding your understanding of irrationality and logic.

You are drawing a unsupported conclusion, and asking others to explain your conclusion.

To develop a hypothesis, I need actual data.

I had no idea what this guy was asking. Sometimes, I just don’t. But I thought maybe there was some genuine question behind it. So I persisted.

Later, in the comments, the dialog went as follows:


MANNY’S OPENING COMMENT

Here are some basic definitions:

irrational: not logical or reasonable (this is not contradicting).

logic: a proper or reasonable way of thinking about something (this is contradicting as logic is based on assumptions—faith based ones, at that, which is irrational).

My response

Oh, I think I see. So your premise is that faith is the foundation for reason?

I was just trying to make sure I understood the reply. So I restated in my own words.

MANNY’S REPLY

No, the onus is not on me, here. The premise of logic is that logic is logical, which is irrational. 😉

My response

I thought I was repeating, albeit differently, what you said:

YOU – … logic is based on assumptions—faith based ones, at that …

ME – Oh, I think I see. So your premise is that faith is the foundation for reason?

I’m just trying to understand in detail. I am assuming the responsibility (the onus) of trying to understand so that I do not presume.

Now I am lost. The onus on me is to understand?

MANNY’S REPLY

🙂

I appreciate that. I hope I was able to clarify for your understanding.

My response

No, not really.

Yet, as you also claim to be an “irrational logician”, I am now persuaded that any answer I might produce is likely to be of little value to you.

I am sorry my friend.

The dialog was not converging.


End Dialog



My observation, one cannot reason with the unreasonable.

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